Foldera…Done for now.
February 22, 2007
I posted almost two weeks ago that Foldera information was coming soon. I got this information from Foldera directly and had since my original post been keeping a positive outlook. Here it is almost two weeks later now and nothing. No updates on the blog still. The best I can do is to tell you that the email I received noted a “…Public Preview release….” in March. Which means that it is not fully launching in March only a ‘Preview’ is launching in March, I’m not sure what that means exactly, but I’m sure it doesn’t mean “Foldera Launches in March”.
I’ve been trying to stay on this because I know many of you visit looking for this information. Anyway, I can’t be bothered talking about this any more. No more posts on Foldera until such time as a viable product is actually launched. I’m Done for now.
Finally, just to make sure to repeat the disclosure, I work for what might be considered a Foldera competitor, if Foldera actually had a product that is.
February 23, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Thanks for covering it so far, and it’s hard to disagree with a decision to stop talking about it when nothing happens. I’ve been waiting (1) for a beta account since just about the time they started offering them (2) for some sign that they were doing something about moving off the otcbb exchange as promised and/or (3) for some indication that they were doing anything at all, or that they understood the extent to which they’d squandered all that positive buzz. Enough is enough, and I’ve been lightening up considerably on their stock, especially into that recent run-up.
February 24, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Go figure? “A Foldera competitor” with a negative slant on the company/launch etc. etc. Do us all a favor and stop posting about them period since your not on the inside and obviously don’t know what you talking about. Your speculating. Does it make you scared that they have a patent on their technology that may and most likely will change the way we collaborate in the future? Let’s see if post makes it to you site.
February 25, 2007 at 4:49 pm
I agree with Saas. Foldera is not Google. Google did all of their “secret stuff” as a private company. Foldera is public now and they need to tell investors where things stand. They have hired all of these professional bloggers, yet these bloggers are not posting about Foldera. Are they even doing anything for Foldera? I see there frequent posts and updates to their own blog sites and others. It is almost like Foldera hired them not to post about Foldera. You call Foldera and you get a BS answer when you ask about an update that they can not talk about it. Their own blog on the Foldera site has not been updated for months yet I see these people blogging on other sites. If they are so consumed with work why do they have all this time to blog elsewhere? They really may have a shareholder lawsuit one of these days if things don’t materialize.
February 25, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Some of the things Foldera have said: it takes million’s of lines of code to complete what they doing and demand for the product was overwhelming, XXXX more than expected.
I guess since none of us are on the inside we’ll have to wait and see what happens. In the mean time it is “a bid idea”…sorting your collaboration automatically. No other company has been able figure this out with any degree of success. Since none of us are on the inside we’ll just have to wait and see, time will tell. It’s easy to see how having to wait so long has made a lot of people frustrated but I think I’ll just try to remain positive about them because for me, if it works the way they claim (and others have written) I’m on board.
February 26, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Foldera Fan, there’s no slant. I followed up with Foldera management based on responses they previously provided to posts on this blog specifically because a large portion of my traffic was referring to my Foldera posts. I was told by them that information was forthcoming on their blog the following week. More than two weeks later that information has not been posted.
I am not speculating in my 2/22 Post, the email I received specifically indicated as I quoted a “Public Preview release…”.
I don’t think anyone in the space should be ’scared’ of Foldera. Any company that can’t deliver a marketable software product with six years of development is nothing to be ’scared’ of. And there is much more to being a competitor in the industry. It’s not enough to just deliver a product. You have to market it effectively and garner a significant, active user base which requires a product, execution and optimization over a period of time. Many companies are way ahead of them in that regard.
I’m glad your hanging in there.
February 27, 2007 at 6:01 am
Can you tell me why they should respond to your inquiries? I’m asking a genuine question. Are your someone Foldera should respond to for some reason the rest of us don’t know about? Are you on the Board or a Venture Capital Investor? I think tomorrow I’ll call John Chambers at Cisco and ask him what the next big project is that he’s working on and EXACTLY when it will be released so I know when to buy Cisco Stock. And you guys are right Foldera needs to get off it and tell us all EXACTLY what’s going on so we know when to buy and sell the stock.
Also the post from Foldera Dreamer just supports the point I was making about the negativity out there when he writes “They really may have a shareholder lawsuit one of these days if things don’t materialize.” Theres no negativity out there. And don’t be scared if it’s successful, I’m sure you’ll do fine.
February 27, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Hi Fan, It has nothing to do with they didn’t respond to me. Foldera doesn’t have to respond to my questions, but the fact of the matter is that they did. I simply asked a question because I have a genuine interest in the industry and I have an audience that is interested in Foldera and I offered them the opportunity to let them know what was going on. The reason I am dissappointed is because I do have a fair number of visitors coming to my blog looking for Foldera information and based on the response I DID receive from Foldera let them know that they could look forward to seeing some new information on the Foldera Blog soon. Foldera didn’t deliver and thus let down my readers. Instead of this dialogue how about you provide some verifiable facts about the product that should make us all fans?
February 27, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Fan,
Here’s what burns me
Why hasn’t Foldera updated anyone their own blog? If you read their own old postings they say that they will post frequently.
Starr and Orchant were blogging about Foldera, Foldera hires them and now no more blogging on Foldera. What are they doing???? If you go to their own personal blogs they are quite busy with DAILY POSTS regarding the whole industry EXCEPT Foldera. Too busy??
Next week SAAS-A-FRAS-ER will be hired by Foldera
February 27, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Hahaha, I totally agree. Saas-a-fras-er will be their new Chief Truthiness Officer.
I agree with everyone wondering why they kept hiring fantasy titled executives like Evangelist and Chief Mobility Officer and Global VP of Word-of-Mouth Marketing. How does a company with only 35 employees get away with that? I can’t guess how hiring those people adds any value to the company. They don’t do anything apart from writing or speaking about Foldera and they aren’t even doing that now. It is amusing actually. Someone commented saying how they hire everyone that writes a good review about them.
Well actually according to this they didn’t pay Oliver Starr anything for 2005. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=FDRA.OB
When was he hired? oh after that..
Believe it or not I don’t want to bash them and I really want to see an awesome Foldera released. It’s just been difficult.
March 1, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Update: The Foldera Blog has some new information posted on 2/28.
March 2, 2007 at 4:52 pm
I’ve been watching for a while, not just this blog/site but all I can find with Foldera information. I think all that Foldera Fan was trying to say and I agree (look at your own words and comments) is that there was a tend towards a “negative slant” from a lot of peopele, not just at this site though. Most of that I can understand because it has taken a while but that’s that case with most start up companies. I have a lot of experience in that regard since I have worked with mostly start up companies for the past 14-15 years. Anyway it looks like Folera Fan may have been right afterall. Look what’s taken place in the last couple of days.
Sass,
I have a couple questions. You said there are a lot of companies way ahead of Foldera. Can you tell us who they are? What specific data and criteria did you use to make that analysis. Do any of them have the same technology Foldera has a patent on? Please outline that for us.
March 2, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Well I’m anticipating that Foldera will have some unique features. Whether or not they will be the difference for customers to select the product is to be determined. I don’t know what they are or how they are presumed to meet user needs.
- Fan was right? Two blog postings in 3 months is not necessarily progress toward a commercially available product. I’ll wait for the release later this month.
- Taken a while? I’m not even sure what to say to that, it’s been more than five years…that’s more than a while.
- Ahead of Foldera; Webmail.us, Google, BlueTie, Hyperoffice, Zoho, Norada. From what I’ve seen on the site, it doesn’t seem to have a significantly wider set of functions from many companies out there today. That and having a commercially available product - experience hosting it, maintaining it, managing scalability, marketing it - and customers using it would be my criteria.
- I’m not sure what Patents these are? Do you have numbers we could look at, I haven’t dug into it that much, do you know conceptually what they are and how they will differentiate the product?
It would be much better of us all to be talking about the product if we could just get in touch with a Foldera Beta user who can talk about the product who is not a Foldera employee.
March 2, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Sass,
No to be argumentative but your really missing the main difference. None of them have the same technology as Foldera which is enabling automatic sorting of data , apts. tasks, calendar events and more automatically. (the patent) No other program or company who have attempted this have done it with any real degree of success.
I’m sorry but I don’t agree with your comparison’s. your just stating an opinion with no REAL data to back it up. I don’t think you or any of us for that matter have enough information at this point which is why I agree with Fan.
You just stated that you have seen a much wider set of function’s from other companies but then you admit to not knowing much and how it would help to speak with a Beta user. Sorry but your speculating which I don’t think is very responsible if your going to maintain a credible blog.
Lastly I have seen the other programs and products your from other companies you list above and again the features look similar but Foldera took a completely different approach which is why the market and millions of people have them on the radar.
March 3, 2007 at 2:04 am
Hi Dean, no problem, it’s okay for us to agree to disagree.
If others of you have opinions please join our dialogue.
March 18, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I still have doubts that they are going to be able to deliver a viable product. The company’s practice of buying off bloggers who are hired immediately following a glowing blog was certainly curious. Then there is the fact of the mythical beta test list that everyone signed up for and nobody was allowed into.
Basically if Foldera turns out to ever be a real working product it should go down as one of the worst product roll-outs in history.
March 22, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Dean, I really have to wonder about that patent too. It sounds cool to sort stuff into the right activity folder automatically but how would it work? Google’s Gmail has labels users can put on their emails to group them together in some way. Do you not have to do anything for the sorting with Foldera? What if things go in the wrong activity folder automatically? I suppose things like emails originating from within Foldera would be able to sort automatically to the right activity, but what about emails from outside Foldera?
They’re sorting based on some criteria and I don’t know how that is patentable.